Comments on: Firefox EULA in Linux Distributions http://lockshot.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/firefox-eula-in-linux-distributions/ Including but not limited to... Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:51:35 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: La comunidad Ubuntu desafía la EULA de Firefox « Mozilla Links en español http://lockshot.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/firefox-eula-in-linux-distributions/#comment-432 La comunidad Ubuntu desafía la EULA de Firefox « Mozilla Links en español Sun, 03 May 2009 16:39:45 +0000 http://lockshot.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/firefox-eula-in-linux-distributions/#comment-432 [...] ¿Qué pasa con los términos de la EULA? Mitchell Baker, de Mozilla Foundation, ha reconocido [en] que los términos de la licencia actual (como se incluye en Firefox 3) no dejan claro que el software es de código abierto en todas sus formas: código y binarios. Se ha publicado una EULA actualizada para dejar esto cclaro como el agua [en]. [...] [...] ¿Qué pasa con los términos de la EULA? Mitchell Baker, de Mozilla Foundation, ha reconocido [en] que los términos de la licencia actual (como se incluye en Firefox 3) no dejan claro que el software es de código abierto en todas sus formas: código y binarios. Se ha publicado una EULA actualizada para dejar esto cclaro como el agua [en]. [...]

]]> By: kev – about:rights in Firefox 3.0.5 http://lockshot.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/firefox-eula-in-linux-distributions/#comment-316 kev – about:rights in Firefox 3.0.5 Fri, 26 Dec 2008 16:13:30 +0000 http://lockshot.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/firefox-eula-in-linux-distributions/#comment-316 [...] proposal, as outlined by Harvey Anderson, following feedback from his postings on September 15th, and Mitchell’s postings on September 15th and [...] [...] proposal, as outlined by Harvey Anderson, following feedback from his postings on September 15th, and Mitchell’s postings on September 15th and [...]

]]> By: AnoymousePerson http://lockshot.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/firefox-eula-in-linux-distributions/#comment-312 AnoymousePerson Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:21:46 +0000 http://lockshot.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/firefox-eula-in-linux-distributions/#comment-312 F-you Mozilla. Your Firefox browser is wonderful but it has gotten more and more bloated and it uses a TON of memory (RAM) after opening a few tabs. Cut the EULA crap and get back to what you should be doing, improving the open-source software which gave you the cred you have. Firefox is open source and you pretty much have no right to it aside from a damn trademark. Nobody cares about it, take that 'trademark' and shove it down your f-in throats, we'll take the code and call it 'Mutton' for all you care and its still legal cause IT IS OPEN SOURCE, it is NOT your code or anyone's code, its for EVERYONE. You worthless a-holes are violating the spirit of open source with your crappy EULA crap. UGH! F-you Mozilla. Your Firefox browser is wonderful but it has gotten more and more bloated and it uses a TON of memory (RAM) after opening a few tabs. Cut the EULA crap and get back to what you should be doing, improving the open-source software which gave you the cred you have.
Firefox is open source and you pretty much have no right to it aside from a damn trademark. Nobody cares about it, take that ‘trademark’ and shove it down your f-in throats, we’ll take the code and call it ‘Mutton’ for all you care and its still legal cause IT IS OPEN SOURCE, it is NOT your code or anyone’s code, its for EVERYONE. You worthless a-holes are violating the spirit of open source with your crappy EULA crap.

UGH!

]]> By: Gustavo Enrique Pimentel » Archive du blog » Ubuntu 8.10 : y la polémica alrrededor del nombre Mozilla Firefox http://lockshot.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/firefox-eula-in-linux-distributions/#comment-180 Gustavo Enrique Pimentel » Archive du blog » Ubuntu 8.10 : y la polémica alrrededor del nombre Mozilla Firefox Fri, 17 Oct 2008 00:58:09 +0000 http://lockshot.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/firefox-eula-in-linux-distributions/#comment-180 [...] Toda la polémica nacio a raiz de una pequeňa sorpresa que fuera reservada a los Beta Testers de la Alfa de Ubuntu 8.10, y, a partir de ahi, ha ido cobrando dimension, a lo que Mitchell Baker, Presidente de Mozilla Corp. y Mozilla Foundation, reconoce que fue un “ gran error “, sobretodo por la forma, pues el contenido de la CLUF solo deberia acentuar el hecho que Firefox esta regido por Licencias para programas libres. Hay un borrador, que fuera colocado en linea “Firefox EULA in Linux Distributions“. [...] [...] Toda la polémica nacio a raiz de una pequeňa sorpresa que fuera reservada a los Beta Testers de la Alfa de Ubuntu 8.10, y, a partir de ahi, ha ido cobrando dimension, a lo que Mitchell Baker, Presidente de Mozilla Corp. y Mozilla Foundation, reconoce que fue un “ gran error “, sobretodo por la forma, pues el contenido de la CLUF solo deberia acentuar el hecho que Firefox esta regido por Licencias para programas libres. Hay un borrador, que fuera colocado en linea “Firefox EULA in Linux Distributions“. [...]

]]> By: Mi espacio con GNU/Linux y todo lo que pasa… » Blog Archive » Ubuntu 8.10 : y la polémica alrrededor del nombre Mozilla Firefox http://lockshot.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/firefox-eula-in-linux-distributions/#comment-176 Mi espacio con GNU/Linux y todo lo que pasa… » Blog Archive » Ubuntu 8.10 : y la polémica alrrededor del nombre Mozilla Firefox Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:34:42 +0000 http://lockshot.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/firefox-eula-in-linux-distributions/#comment-176 [...] Toda la polémica nacio a raiz de una pequeňa sorpresa que fuera reservada a los Beta Testers de la Alfa de Ubuntu 8.10, y, a partir de ahi, ha ido cobrando dimension, a lo que Mitchell Baker, Presidente de Mozilla Corp. y Mozilla Foundation, reconoce que fue un “ gran error “, sobretodo por la forma, pues el contenido de la CLUF solo deberia acentuar el hecho que Firefox esta regido por Licencias para programas libres. Hay un borrador, que fuera colocado en linea “Firefox EULA in Linux Distributions“. [...] [...] Toda la polémica nacio a raiz de una pequeňa sorpresa que fuera reservada a los Beta Testers de la Alfa de Ubuntu 8.10, y, a partir de ahi, ha ido cobrando dimension, a lo que Mitchell Baker, Presidente de Mozilla Corp. y Mozilla Foundation, reconoce que fue un “ gran error “, sobretodo por la forma, pues el contenido de la CLUF solo deberia acentuar el hecho que Firefox esta regido por Licencias para programas libres. Hay un borrador, que fuera colocado en linea “Firefox EULA in Linux Distributions“. [...]

]]> By: clear http://lockshot.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/firefox-eula-in-linux-distributions/#comment-164 clear Wed, 08 Oct 2008 06:41:27 +0000 http://lockshot.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/firefox-eula-in-linux-distributions/#comment-164 I'm fairly curious how many people actually read the entire if any of the EULA of any installation. I know I never do. I’m fairly curious how many people actually read the entire if any of the EULA of any installation. I know I never do.

]]> By: LINUX HOME » Blog Archive » Mozilla in hot water over use of EULA in Canonical Ubuntu Linux http://lockshot.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/firefox-eula-in-linux-distributions/#comment-161 LINUX HOME » Blog Archive » Mozilla in hot water over use of EULA in Canonical Ubuntu Linux Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:16:13 +0000 http://lockshot.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/firefox-eula-in-linux-distributions/#comment-161 [...] that day, Mozilla Corp. vice president and general counsel Harvey Anderson posted a “beta test” of sorts for a revised EULA that may somehow be made visible to Ubuntu installers, but which will not require a click-through [...] [...] that day, Mozilla Corp. vice president and general counsel Harvey Anderson posted a “beta test” of sorts for a revised EULA that may somehow be made visible to Ubuntu installers, but which will not require a click-through [...]

]]> By: Mozilla、Firefoxの利用許諾を見直し - PJNN今日のスーパーニュース速報 http://lockshot.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/firefox-eula-in-linux-distributions/#comment-155 Mozilla、Firefoxの利用許諾を見直し - PJNN今日のスーパーニュース速報 Tue, 23 Sep 2008 23:35:51 +0000 http://lockshot.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/firefox-eula-in-linux-distributions/#comment-155 [...] 修正後のE­UL­A please wait...Rating: 0.0/10 (0 votes cast)人気度 » 33 % [...] [...] 修正後のE­UL­A please wait…Rating: 0.0/10 (0 votes cast)人気度 » 33 % [...]

]]> By: Taxman http://lockshot.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/firefox-eula-in-linux-distributions/#comment-132 Taxman Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:53:42 +0000 http://lockshot.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/firefox-eula-in-linux-distributions/#comment-132 Hmm. It's really unfortunate that you think this needs to be done and aren't understanding the damage that it is causing. Firefox has generated a huge amount of goodwill because of freedom and that freedom led to building a quality alternative browser. That goodwill was not generated from restrictions and legalese. The restrictions added by this license do no good for Mozilla since the law already protects trademarks, and does a lot to harm software freedom. I like others actively encouraged the use of Firefox and that word of mouth is what has led to it's rise in use. But I also no longer feel that I can continue to do that given that Mozilla has made it clear freedom is not important to them anymore. And that's too bad, because there are some advantages to having a single alternative browser that people can come to know and be familiar with. You say that the license doesn't infringe on the rights that the opensource licenses give with this wording: Nothing in this Agreement will be construed to limit any rights granted to you under the Open Source Licenses with respect to the Corresponding Source. yet section (4) directly conflicts with that: 4. Termination. If you breach any provision of Paragraphs 1 -3, including the terms of the MPL incorporated by reference, your right to use the Product will terminate immediately and without notice. As I understand it the MPL, like other opensource licenses is a distribution license and only carries restrictions on distribution. It does not restrict use. Your license draft does restrict use, and is unsurprisingly not being received very well. For all the reasons that Firefox became popular in the first place and in order to help it keep becoming moreso, please drop this whole thing and don't just hide it deeper in the licensing somewhere. Hmm. It’s really unfortunate that you think this needs to be done and aren’t understanding the damage that it is causing. Firefox has generated a huge amount of goodwill because of freedom and that freedom led to building a quality alternative browser. That goodwill was not generated from restrictions and legalese.

The restrictions added by this license do no good for Mozilla since the law already protects trademarks, and does a lot to harm software freedom. I like others actively encouraged the use of Firefox and that word of mouth is what has led to it’s rise in use. But I also no longer feel that I can continue to do that given that Mozilla has made it clear freedom is not important to them anymore. And that’s too bad, because there are some advantages to having a single alternative browser that people can come to know and be familiar with.

You say that the license doesn’t infringe on the rights that the opensource licenses give with this wording:
Nothing in this Agreement will be construed to limit any rights granted to you under the Open Source Licenses with respect to the Corresponding Source.
yet section (4) directly conflicts with that:
4. Termination. If you breach any provision of Paragraphs 1 -3, including the terms of the MPL incorporated by reference, your right to use the Product will terminate immediately and without notice.
As I understand it the MPL, like other opensource licenses is a distribution license and only carries restrictions on distribution. It does not restrict use. Your license draft does restrict use, and is unsurprisingly not being received very well.

For all the reasons that Firefox became popular in the first place and in order to help it keep becoming moreso, please drop this whole thing and don’t just hide it deeper in the licensing somewhere.

]]> By: מוזילה מקשיבה להפצות הלינוקס « תוכנה חופשית בעברית http://lockshot.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/firefox-eula-in-linux-distributions/#comment-127 מוזילה מקשיבה להפצות הלינוקס « תוכנה חופשית בעברית Thu, 18 Sep 2008 07:12:07 +0000 http://lockshot.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/firefox-eula-in-linux-distributions/#comment-127 [...] מהפוסט Firefox EULA in Linux Distributions מאת Harvey [...] [...] מהפוסט Firefox EULA in Linux Distributions מאת Harvey [...]

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